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great one. >> ♪ close your eyes and i'll miss you, tomorrow -- kiss you, tomorrow i'll miss you, remember i'll always be true ♪ ♪ and then while i'm away, i'll write home every day, and i'll send all my lovin' to you ♪ chris: you know it's a game changer, it really is because you cannot imagine life without them. two days before we ever heard of them and two days after them were different worlds. well, i unfortunately can imagine life without them. [laughter] >> from the dim past? >> by the way, i think that was my wife screaming there. she was at the carnegie hall concert. it was an unbelievable moment. it was my senior year in high school and all of a sudden there was this group that had
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incredible high energy, encredibly catchy energy and high energy and yet insidious. chris: what do you mean? younger people don't realize this was the first time i remember that parents were really challenge bid their kids on hair, on statements and who is the boss the >> what is interesting about the beatles, like all musicians that want to make it, their first music was pleasing music, happy music. chris: sure was. >> and then as they got popular and, frankly, lived a little and saw more of the world and became a little older, wiser, and maybe more cynical, they let it show in their music too, which then took off. you want to talk about challenging authority, that's when. chris: and gf -- before the beatles, i hadn't really thought a lot about britain,
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you know, carnaby street and all that. but all of a sudden these simple lyrics, my older brother said to me, they sing simple rock 'n' roll songs and everybody loves them. >> they were the first ones to really make it big in america. it was really the beatles who were the firbrits to make it in such a huge way where america dropped everything and listened. every time the beatles came out with a new song, you dropped what you were doing. chris: what did you make of that? >> those scenes of the screaming crowds were played in britain and people were amazed by what the beatles had done. almost the beatles were bigger in america than perhaps they were back home. chris: there was one television in our dorm floor, the r.a., of course. we all crowded into his room and watched. you couldn't not be about. >> well, it was before my time. my love for the beatles came from my older brother. i would hear him playing that
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music. but i did attend the rock 'n' roll hall of fame when they were inducted. what i find interesting is those sweeter songs wrb the ones that cross all age barriers. if it can play in a he will eveator. >> well, "i want to hold your hand," "i want to kiss you," the stunning thing is the simpleplicit musically. i remember leonard bernstein had a sunday afternoon show explaining classical music to americans and he devoted a whole hour to the beatles and their chord structures and i thought whoa! >> music major in college. this was the most important thing to me -- chris: what was your instrument? >> french horn. and it was very important to me to know which rock bands were actually decent musicians. chord structure is everything.
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the beatles had it, queen had it. the british musicians all had some classical music training to them. chris: anyway, the bbc did a documentary in 1963 about the liverpool sound, as it was called. >> people demand, do you think, how long are you going to last? you can't even be big-headed and say we'll last 10 years, soon as you say that you're lucky to last three months. >> obviously we can't start -- keep playing the same music until we're 40, you know, like old men. we've thought it -- about it and probably the thing john and i will do will be write songs as we have been doing as a sort of sideline now. we'll probably develop that a bit more the chris: and everyone is smokering during the interview. ant that old-timey? just look at the evolution of
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the cover art, by the way, through the 1960's and the final one in the 1970's. . magical mystery tour stands in stark contrast to the early days. the egg man i am the walrus ♪ i am the walrus ♪ >> there were two beatles, right? the beginning which comes out of the 1950's, the mop tops, the clean, innocent ones, and then the shift in 1966 when they decided they'd had enough of beat. mania and screaming women, amongst them joe's wife in the crowd, and they wanted to good back into the studio and end -- expend some of 9 capital they had built up to extend their range. that was unusual for brands. they had a very particular
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brand and they were prepared to say we're going to change it. >> but compared to the others -- the rolling stones, they never did that. that's the irony. he -- you hear paul mccartney say, we don't want to be up there when we're 40. and mick jagger is doing the stim schtik at 65. of the beatles, by the way. paul mccartney is the one that does want to be out there still. >> the amazing thing about that period is our consciousness was expanding in many ways, not just in the psychedelic way but also around that time i think the summer of 1966 was the period when a lot of people in this country turned against the war in vietnam, twinned it with the civil rights movement -- chris: very much so. although they never gave an anti-war statement, lennon later with imagine, but they were part of the rebellion.
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anyway, here's my favorite of all. this is in the movie "yellow submarine." ♪ ah look at all the lonely people snotes ♪ ah look at all the lonely people ♪ ♪ eleanor rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been ♪ ♪ lives in a dream ♪ waits at the window, wearing her face that she keeps in a jar by the door ♪ ♪ who is it for? ♪ crukes know that mixing of rhythms, that sound, it's so fascinating and all the lyrics came from going into a country church yard in liverpool and seeing names on the tombstones. father mckenzie, eleanor rigby. all that, chuck. >> it is great stuff and when i
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go back and look, especially the more training i've gotten in music, they actually are kind of timeless. my favorite is helter-skelter. you can listen to it now and think oh, is that a band today that put that out? they were so progressive in their music at the end. >> it's a really hard choice. i have a song called jude which is -- shall a son called jude who was named after that tune. chris: you named him after jude? >> it's a beautiful song, timeless love song. "something in the way she oves" is also. >> if i fair. album was "revolver." favorite song though was "a day in the life," which opened up all these possibilities for
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rock music. all of a sudden rock music was profound. chris: the people that don't know what we're talking about, tell everybody else. rnl and back to the beginning, july of 1963, liverpool. ♪ oh, yeah, i tell you something, i think you'll understand ♪ ♪ when i say that something, i want to hold your hand i want to hold your hand i want to hold your hand ♪ chris: seeing those liver poole fans who truly launched the beatles, and something called the mers. ier. counseled. -- mers. ier. sound. the trip to ed sullivan in 1946 created pandemonium. new york cops said they'd never seen anything like it.
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listen to the news reel covering -- coverage of the return to london. >> here they are, fresh from their triumphant tour in the united states. odd aff scientists in on -- add dash -- an odd moment calculated theory generating enough energy to power three rockets the people who value their sanity head for cover and let the teenagers take over. chris: they're outliving him. rm let's close out with more beatles tribute music. here from the ed sullivan show. ♪ yesterday, love was such an easy game to play now i need a place to hide away oh i believe in yesterday ♪
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yesterday crocx and when we come back, will a new
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chris: welcome back. pope francis i brings enormous appeal for his service to the poor and his jesuit pack ground in argentina. american catholics will be watching, of course, and a poll just before francis was chosen, only a third of american catholics said pope was in touch with american people. 54%, a strong majority said yes to reform the kelly, hope springs eternal, especially with the new pope.
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great theater, much excitement. how is he going to appeal to progress rives in america? >> although the church has always been for the poor, to have a pontiff who is so closely allied with the poor and has lived it, in these years of controversy and being reminded of the wealth of the church where they are paying out for the terrible sins of some priests, to have someone who has lived the austere life, the message of francis, that helps. my expectations for change are not big. but he talked about contraceptives with relation to disease. but he's turning a page that was needed. >> changing the headlines, this is a church that politically needs to have a game-changing message. talking now about poverty and
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equality much more than about ask sex scandals. politically a smart move. if doctor >> if he does anything, if he changes the bureaucracy in the vatican, which definitely needs an overhaul, and it's funny, talking about the social issues, remember, this is a religious person. you're right, kelly, contraception should be an issue. maybe it helps young catholics in the -- america say maybe the church is going to have strident positions i don't believe in on abortion and gay marriage but contraception -- >> in all the years going to church, no one has ever sermonized on contraception. they have to get to the point where they're not calling it a sinlt we'll see. >> i conte know -- don't know
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that that's going to happen. the three really important words, humility and social justice. the way he presents him elve is truly righteous and spiritual and that's really important and also there is this tremendous -- tremendous tradition within the church of working with the poor, favoring sorble justice, and he represents that, too. chris: i think the bathing of the feet, personally, of the aids victims, the h.i.v. people, is a statement. >> although the brits don't like him because he's in favor of turning the falklands back! >> the fact that he's not you're not boo-yeah european, he's
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chris: welcome back, chuck, tell me something i don't know. you already told us you're a music maker. >> my favorite rock piece of french horn music is "you can't always get what you want," because it opens with a horn solo. >> we talked about declining numbers of catholics in america but in the last 40 years, the number declined by 40%.
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in the same period the number who identify themselves as strongly protestant has risen the chris: how are the ang lickans doing? >> doing great. all doing better -- talking about how you identify your seven. >> the president is going overseas. while he is gone some senior officials are telling me they're going to try to keep the communication open with particularly the republicans in the senate. we've just gotten off the charm offensive and they don't want to lose that momentum. everyone i've talked to, including mitch, says it was very much worth their time. >> erik, a fine man, courageous man, hasn't been a particularly good advocate for veterans, especially the iraq and fghanistan era and it's time
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for him to step aside. chris: when we come back, the big question, does washington expect to have to go to war with iran?
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chris: welcome back. president obama leaves monday nor -- for israel and he said this monday about the theat from iran. >> we would say it would take over a year or so nor -- for iran to actually develop a nuclear weapon but obviously we don't want to cut it too close. chris: which brings us to this week's big question. what do you hear? >> what you hear from the president is him setting a time line in advance of his trip with meeting netanyahu. he knows netanyahu is anxious. he believes it's got to be sooner. he is the one who drew the red line. so he gave them the red line but also extended it.
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i know some people are going to hear that and say oh, boy -- boy, he said a year. but netanyahu heard at least he's setting one but not the one i want. chris: it's not a note, it's a promise. that's what i hear. >> that's the question. is it a promise? >> i think we are further away from the promise of imminent military action than last summer. what the president has said changes the equation a bit. what they are trying to do now is make it about weaponization rather than enrichment. >> that's interesting. i do hear that on the time line, their real progress on this might not be so accurate, that there is real concern that they might be able to move, iran, more quickly. it certainly changes the level of anxiety about preparation. >> first of all, a war with iran would be disastrous and
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ridiculous. we contained the soviet union, a far greater threat, and we can contain iran as well. having said that i sense we are moving down the road down a very dangerous path. that statement from the president was unnecessarily provocative. if you get into the line setting business you are set be -- setting up a war. chris: thanks to the panel and to lee childs, our cruiser -- producer, for four great years now with the show. that's the sho
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hi, everybody. welcome to "on the money with maria bartiromo." i'm maria bartiromo. it's starting to sound like a broken record, but one you want to hear. another new high for the markets, but will the fed pull away the punch bowl? will washington get in the way? and is it too late to get in? then, it's no mickey mouse conversation. my conversation with bob iger about why nobody can beat the whiz. the company's digital strategy, and what is happening with "star wars." are they going to reunite? plus, spring is in the air. it's almost time for baseball. we'll talk to a former wall street trader who says trading, math and figuring out wall street aren't too far on the money. "on the money" starts right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program, "on the money." now maria bartiromo. >> here is a look at what is making news as we head into a new week "on the money." .
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>> the federal reserve released the stress test. the banks are asking banks to return capital to shareholders which the fed must approve. the federal reserve accepted the plans of citigroup, bank of america, morgan stanley and wells fargo, while goldman sachs and jpmorgan's were conditionally accepted, they have to revise their ask and go back for the third quarter. alli and bb & t's plans were rejected saying they did not have of a cushion in reserves should there be a serve economic downturn. sheila bair telling me this week the stress tests are very useful, even if they are not perfect. >> one of the positive things about these stress tests is we are getting more information out about what is on their balance sheet and what the impact of the losses could be in various stress scenarios. but, you know, it's an imperfect process and one that is evolving. we are in much better shape. well still have a ways to go, but we're in much better shape than europe, and i would take our banking system over

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News/Business. (2013) Journalists discuss the effect of The Beatles on music, politics and the world; the new Pope; American Catholics. (CC) (Stereo)

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